Curse

Elistan Theocrat · Aug 24, 2005, 01:48 PM // 13:48

I'm going to admit upfront I couldnt get thru the entire thread because I dont feel like participating in the EULA relevance debate this kind of thread inevitably turns into. I skipped reading the entire thread because my post is anecdotal in nature and not in response to anything anyone said but the OP.

I'm opposed to the selling/buying of in game material from any game on Ebay or any other online marketplace where people sell virutual property that is not thiers to sell. I'm so opposed to this, that when I quit playing EQ with a 58th lvl monk (60 was the cap) complete with epic weapon, Fungi tunic, god/dragon loot and assorted other status/wealth items, I didn't sell the account on Ebay. It would've been nothing during that period of time for me to get 1200.00 dollars for that account. In fact a Marine buddy of mine sold a druid who was argubably less equpped but 60th lvl for something like 2,200 dollars.

Some people will say I'm retarded for not taking the money and running. But I was fairly well known on my server, both loved and hated. I hadn't set out to make money when I started playing, and I was gonna be god damned if I had spent that time playing and advancing (which was years cause were talkin about the mother of all grind games) just so that some lazy person with more money than common sense could walk around as my character. Instead of that I handed down the ubervaluable items I had that were not no-drop and deleted the character.

Just my 2 cents. I cant stand buyers or sellers of game things online.

Some other time I'll tell the story of the guy who tried to sell one of my noob alternate characters gold for cash in Ascalon city. When I turned him down he called me a stupid american and stated it was my fault that 9/11 happened....

Dax · Aug 24, 2005, 02:18 PM // 14:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elistan Theocrat

I'm going to admit upfront I couldnt get thru the entire thread because I dont feel like participating in the EULA relevance debate this kind of thread inevitably turns into. I skipped reading the entire thread because my post is anecdotal in nature and not in response to anything anyone said but the OP.

I'm opposed to the selling/buying of in game material from any game on Ebay or any other online marketplace where people sell virutual property that is not thiers to sell. I'm so opposed to this, that when I quit playing EQ with a 58th lvl monk (60 was the cap) complete with epic weapon, Fungi tunic, god/dragon loot and assorted other status/wealth items, I didn't sell the account on Ebay. It would've been nothing during that period of time for me to get 1200.00 dollars for that account. In fact a Marine buddy of mine sold a druid who was argubably less equpped but 60th lvl for something like 2,200 dollars.

Some people will say I'm retarded for not taking the money and running. But I was fairly well known on my server, both loved and hated. I hadn't set out to make money when I started playing, and I was gonna be god damned if I had spent that time playing and advancing (which was years cause were talkin about the mother of all grind games) just so that some lazy person with more money than common sense could walk around as my character. Instead of that I handed down the ubervaluable items I had that were not no-drop and deleted the character.

Just my 2 cents. I cant stand buyers or sellers of game things online.

Some other time I'll tell the story of the guy who tried to sell one of my noob alternate characters gold for cash in Ascalon city. When I turned him down he called me a stupid american and stated it was my fault that 9/11 happened....

I hear ya. I can't imagine buying a character, it just seems like it defeats the purpose. I will say however that I think there's a difference between someone selling a EQ character that took them awhile to build up and someone who buys gold for a game that doesn't take as much time.

NIB · Aug 25, 2005, 01:03 PM // 13:03

But the whole game in eq, is making that char. The whole game in gw, is pvping. So getting a slightly better looking item doesnt affect in game mechanics. Not participating in a byproduct of the game, grinding, doesnt mean that you experience "less of the game". Its a no brainer. Its like buying a custom, better looking ui for unreal tournament.

Elistan Theocrat · Aug 25, 2005, 02:38 PM // 14:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by NIB

But the whole game in eq, is making that char. The whole game in gw, is pvping. So getting a slightly better looking item doesnt affect in game mechanics. Not participating in a byproduct of the game, grinding, doesnt mean that you experience "less of the game". Its a no brainer. Its like buying a custom, better looking ui for unreal tournament.

Wrong, the whole game in EQ was forming social connections, and building a character well, and playing that character well so that you could participate in the larger "raid" type adventures or GM events. People didnt buy high end characters for the character, they bought high end characters to skip to the "endgame" of high power raids, and also being able to duel well.

As far as any referrence to a FPS in conjunction with conversations about GW, its false. If Anet wanted GW to be a TPS, third person shooter. They wouldn't have designed a beautiful world and a roleplaying game in the first place.

Dax · Aug 25, 2005, 03:02 PM // 15:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by NIB

But the whole game in eq, is making that char. The whole game in gw, is pvping. So getting a slightly better looking item doesnt affect in game mechanics. Not participating in a byproduct of the game, grinding, doesnt mean that you experience "less of the game". Its a no brainer. Its like buying a custom, better looking ui for unreal tournament.

PvP is far from the whole game, I don't know where you get that. You could certainly play just PvP but to take it a step further there is a whole story line character progression, the whole works. Items need to be earned, not bought by someone else who earned them.

SOT · Aug 25, 2005, 06:11 PM // 18:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teklord

Short and simple.

Let see, it appears the max gold any one character can carry is 100K.. and thus the max that can be traded during any one transaction is 100K. As this is the design, it is quite clear that items were never designed to ever be worth more than 100K at the extreme top end.

100K+ items, what a joke.

I agree. I also would like to point out that I have more than 100k in storage

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elistan Theocrat

Wrong, the whole game in EQ was forming social connections, and building a character well, and playing that character well so that you could participate in the larger "raid" type adventures or GM events.

The whole game in EQ is corpse running

ty3c · Aug 25, 2005, 06:14 PM // 18:14

selling anything on ebay is braking the guild wars rules

i belive in just making your plat in the game and buying your items with plat in the game

or farming

People stop braking the rules!

play it legit well thats my two cents.

NIB · Aug 25, 2005, 06:56 PM // 18:56

Quote:

Items need to be earned, not bought by someone else who earned them

Earned? How exactly can be earned? Grinding is part of the game? Finding 10 max stormbows with above 50% is skill? No it isnt. It is a combination of wasted time and luck. It doesnt require any skill. Anyway, go back and read my previous post cause i dont like repeating myself all the time.

BeatWolf · Aug 26, 2005, 12:07 AM // 00:07

Buy all the gold of Ebay i say, don't waste your life farming for crap drops. Its not fun at all, just repetative. I don't buy of ebay, but i would rather buy there than waste my life farming and sitting in lions arch trying to sell a near perfect item.

If you want the best stuff get a job earn money and spend it on a game

Fatalis · Aug 26, 2005, 12:49 AM // 00:49

zehly · Aug 26, 2005, 12:57 AM // 00:57

....

If someone is selling GW Gold on Ebay, and it's 500k for 4.99, I'll buy it. I pay more than that for a pack of cigarettes, so hell, it's just like losing one more day of my life.